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Michael Woudenberg's avatar

I remember when Pinker's book Enlightenment Now came out with example after example like this, the main critizism is that it doesn't 'feel' like that to many people and telling them otherwise undermines their 'lived expereince.'

I worked with a woman who was extremely worried about violence on women in 2020 and compared that to her own expereince as a college kid touring India solo in the 90s when she felt it was safer. When I pulled up the numbers and showed her that she was SIGNIFICANTLY more at risk back then, I got HR called on me for the crime of minimizing violence on women. I told HR that I didn't justify it, I contextualized it. That wasn't good enough. Because violence still existed and because this women felt it was worse, my sharing that it was orders of magnitude safer was offensive.

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Ronaldo's avatar

I think few will doubt that a number of challenges have been solved, and in a narrow sense progress is irrefutable. On average people do live longer, are healthier, and have basic literacy. I wonder though, if not a comparable model is the life of many animals in captivity. They too live longer and healthier. If captivity is progress for them, it would seem a rather hollow victory, and more importantly, it challenges the assumption that raising these basic metrics is a good proxy for meaningful progress (whatever that may be).

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